No discrimination in the United States

I was just reading the IEEE Spectrum and it was the first time that I paied attention to the recruiting advertisements of the companies in the United States. Here are some texts cited from it.

Carnegie Mellon University does not discriminate and Carnegie Mellon University is required not to discriminate in admission, employment or administration of its programs or activities on the basis of race, color, national origin, sex or handicap.

Smiths Aerospace is an Equal Opportunity Employer promoting diversity in the workplace. We invite and encourage response from women, persons of color, veterans and disabled.

NSA is an equal opportunity employer. All applicants for employment are considered without regard to race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, marital status, disability, sexual orientation, or status a a parent.

MIT Lincoln Lab.
As an equal Opportunity employer we are committed to realizing our vision of diversity and inclusion in every aspect of our enterprise.

Lockheedmatin, SAIC:
An Equal Opportunity Employer.


I had some experiences in finding a job in China, even when you want to enter the top companies like Google, Microsoft, IBM, as well as P&G, Goldman Sachs, GE, or you just want to be admitted by top universities like Peking University, usually you can feel some kinds of discrimination:

1. You need fill a form about your national region(In China we usually call that “Hukou“) when you apply a position in IBM, P&G, etc(I can not find the page because you can’t access it before entering the online apply system). Usually when you want to be a clack of local government agency, it requires a local Hukou(the current-year collage students can also be admitted, but it is indeed a lie, quite few student can get the opportunity. Additionally, it is only a superficial policy to solve the unemployment of college students in China), which can not make sense! Why a person born in the West can not serve as a clack in the government of East? It is a whole country, not a United Provinces. The discrimination upon national region is especially obvious in China. People live in the big cities look down upon people live in small cities; but people live in small cities look down upon peasants. Shanghanees usually look down upon people from other provinces except Beijing; all the people around China look down upon people from Henan Province. What’s wrong with China?

2. A lot of companies do not want to hire unmarried female employee, as they usually will get married and probably would quit from current job. HR will ask every question about your personal affair including the question like “If your husband want you to quit from job, what will you do? or Do you have a boy/girlfriend in a different city?”(cited from here). If P&G ask me the same question in the United States, I will argue for the discrimination and refuse to answer such silly questions? It is totally personal affair and you have no right to know this. (Well, I shall not apply P&G after graduate study.) The question is: they ask the question in China!

3. The person with disability even can not enter the university. We have the example in China.

4. You must speak fluent English, even you can speak Chinese well and you will never speak English during the whole career, a high level of English ability is required and there is a discrimination upon the English ability. (Every Chinese know this. Even you study traditional Chinese culture or Arts, you need to learn English. What’s wrong with our country?)

5. You must be in a Top 5 university, otherwise Peking University, GS, Google and Microsoft probably would not admit you despite of your distinguished ability. They usually do not give the opportunity to the other universities except top 5. Let’s take Peking University for example, when I was taking the graduate entrance interview in PKU, a guy from another university (maybe from Geoscience University) also got the opportunity to have the interview, but the committee said that you were not from the top 5 university and your undergraduate major was Geoscience, why you came here to study Computer Science and Bioinfomatics?. Well, even though I came from a top 5 university, they asked me about the occupation of my parents, my family financial status.(You know, we have full scholarship, the family financial status is not a factor in admission.), and why did you come to PKU to study CS and Bioinfo as your undergraduate major was Math. OMG, why can’t? Well, I must admit that Peking University is the best university that emphasis the diversity of students among all the universities around China. Usually the worse the university is, the more emphsis putted on the rank of your original university or the silly GPA despite of your ability. GS, Google, Microsoft and IBM even do not post any campus recruiting advertisements in the universities other than top 5. Why? I know that they want to recruit excellent person, but a top 5 ranking equals to excellent ability and vice versa? Well, do not say that I am a cynicism. I finally got the offer from Microsoft, passed the final round of Google and got the admission of Peking University. I just want to show my opinion on the discrimination.

6. If you do not have a straight sexual orientation in China, well, it’s too dangerous. Tomatoes , eggs and words can drown you to the hell, you’d better do you best to come to the United States. (And do not forget to mention the reason when you are applying your visa)

7. In China, a lot of people are infected by a strange virus called HBV. Usually HBV is not dangerous and will not affect others during daily activities like huging, shacking hands and having dinner together. However, a lot of companies like Huawai (its biz scope is about telecommunication, I refuse to link it) refuse to hire employees with HBV. Huawei is really suck. (You know, it just copy a lot from Cisco, we know that.)

In one word, although we all know that discrimination is everywhere in the world including United States, to be honest, I must concede that the discrimination in China is really quite quite serious.

2 Comments »

  1. campbell_zhang said,

    November 10, 2006 @ 5:28 pm

    同意!
    国内的“歧视”还是挺重的。
    美国为什么会在录用的时候加上“No discrimination”的声明的?很显然,因为存在discrimination在美国!呵呵
    但是美国的法律这时候就起了作用,出现了这种强制的声明。不能说法律这时候起了决定性的作用,但起码在把事情往好的方面引导。

    国内可以效仿美国在这方面的做法马?我认为暂时还不可能。我看来法律从来都不是绝对公平的,只是为了达成平衡的一种工具。国内现在有很多别的更迫切的东西需要达成平衡。而歧视问题看来实在不是什么大不了的问题。说严重点:“赏你一碗饭吃算看得起你,你还敢跟我谈歧视?”

  2. You XU said,

    November 11, 2006 @ 7:50 am

    美国的种族歧视非常严重
    但是美国的diversity的照顾 对残疾人的照顾,可以说在法律层面和公众层面都是做的很好的

    国内现在效率至上,其实发展中国家这样也没什么好指摘的,要平衡的东西太多了,要就业的人也太多了,要上研究生的人太多了;这些歧视早就司空见怪了。只是现在不是要“和谐社会”么,这些问题最后还是要解决的。我属于绝对左派,对中国还属于爱之深,责之切呀!

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